In the New Testament we are referred to Jesus who did not condemn the woman ‘caught in adultery’ yet this does not say he did not condemn adultery….What it was that those who wanted to ‘catch him’ in doing was breaking the law in terms of the need for two or three witnesses who would testify in agreement to the accusation. I fully understand about the guy and his wife and you are concerned about them. I continued to fake it, questioning the depth of my faith and why the Spirit was not giving me this gift. So again …man and secular law does not override what GOD has ordained. We don’t need big signs to say see God is real…believe! Thank you Lynn. I grieve that he and all of us MISSED ‘ what marriage was intended to be . To many who study the word it is the responsibility of those who claim Christ to enter into it knowing it is a covenant between man and GOD and the man and the woman and a covenant which JESUS said was unbreakable until death. I didn’t seek the gift, but if Abba wanted me to have it, I will certainly not reject it. Alistair Taylor (U.K.). I often tried to tell him ‘I did not get married to be alone and to go everywhere alone’ he did not respond to this ..He was too involved with work and the OW …and finally she urged him to ‘give her children ‘ since she had ‘ used up her time to meet anyone else”! Yes, the Holy Spirit teaches us but the Holy Spirit, when He speaks to you, or to me, or to anyone, must always agree with Scripture, right? I don`t mean all day just for a minute,and if one of the Apostles broke his foot. Hi Jack, I am confused please help me out. There is no believer in Christ that does not have the gift of the Spirit. I am still in awe at what happened,and God dosn`t make mistakes. Also, bigger sometimes produces pride. Anthony…my friend, you are giving me more credit than I deserve. In March of 1993, after a particularly nasty divorce due to my now ex-wife’s repeated adulteries, I filed for divorce, after one year of attempted reconciliation. It would sound like I doubted what the Spirit could do. but my suprarenal life with the god is zero. This turn on a light for this Brother and he went back home and started to attack his wife with this kind of love. Greetings, Brother Jerry. The word "interpretation" here is from the Greek "harmeneia" meaning "explanation" or "full interpretation" (Bullinger's). I thank God for you my friend. He goes into great detail and spends a little extra time talking about the gift of tongues. Well I will let you know Jack how I get on this Sunday. It wouldn’t be okay to rule out the possibility of the Holy spirit healing people through their shadows. A number of years ago, I’d say about 15, I was in a transitory time in my life and seeking answers from God. That is, many verses are prescriptive and some are descriptive. Pastor Jack, I am constantly going over this issue, as the various denominational camps are so divided over the various indwellings and impartations of Father’s Holy Spirit, promised to us by Jesus himself. He also states His words are Spirit and they are life. It was met with total disdain with a few ‘false prophet’ quotes. When will the husbands hear the things written to them from scripture with the same urgency? My chest xray was done and the Doctor has not told me much . I love the grace and humility you have my friend. I also would encounter those that spoke in tongues. But when I read in the Bible about how such great wonders were done back then I think to myself “Why couldn’t such things happen today within the church?” I believe it’s because we’ve set limits to what we think is possible in our day. He felt great and we did also. PO Box 57, Paraparaumu 5254, New Zealand. They tend to exude confidence in all situations. I pray all is well with you! I believe she is wrong, not based on what I think but according to what the Bible says and that’s the most important opinion of all for it’s God’s opinion that counts. Blessings, shalom. "The Gospel Faith Messenger" Ministry. This makes me so joyful knowing that you will have the Body of Christ there to surround you and be part of that Body. God is faithful. I live in a damp environment in the NW USA. You must think of what He has saved you out of (Rev 20:12-15, Rev 21:8). When I heard this word, I started crying out to God, saying “help me! I completely understand the confusion and hesitancy to believe that miracles, healings, and tongues could exist today. I have found that offering comfort and encouragement to others in this situation to seek the Lord and to not “jump ship’ to be helpful. Romans 8:26,27 God shows us that we don’t have to speak ANY language for the Spirit to intercede for us. To give confirmation to what God has already been saying or doing. Dreams are as a result of what your mind dwells on. One example of what I disagree with is your teaching on being “baptized in or with the Holy Spirit”. The Holy Spirit comforts us in times of affliction and hardship. He can speak through anything, including a donkey, as described in the book of Numbers. If it is broken by adultery the adulterer is not to marry someone else because they make that person commit adultery. LOL. God has blessed me, protected me (often from myself) and humbled me over the years. Tell me by the way what things am I wrong in teaching? Not as much a risk with small churches. He really began to assert his independence covered by ‘transparent’ LYING after our first child was born and his mom died. The church is called Bethany Memorial Independent Methodist Church. A godly marriage may not change the ‘world ‘ in terms of it’s influence doctrinally …but wait….why then does the Lord exhort those in marriage to prepare to love their wives and thus as you have shared ..the wife will find it much easier to respond ..as God loved us first …so we love HIM ..the husband initiates love and so his wife will find it easier to love and follow him. To help in counselling/evangelistic situations. I don’t claim to know everything in the Bible, because God has shown me how little I know by teaching out of one chapter in the Bible for five years. If you like what you're reading, you can get free daily updates through the RSS feed here. Such a beautiful testimony! var prefix = 'ma' + 'il' + 'to'; The KJV uses "bless" and "giving thanks.". Do not let your heart faint, do not be afraid, and do not tremble or be terrified because of them; 4 for the Lord your God is He who goes with you, to fight for you against your enemies, to save you.’”. God is everywhere, you may not see Him with your physical eyes (Jer.23:23-24). These gifts are intended for the church to edify it, to strengthen it, to feed it, to exhort it, to encourage it and to have the Body of Christ empowered to do the work of Christ. Work within the guide-lines/frame-work set by the Leadership of your local church. When all is said and done, The most important thing is people knowledge of who Jesus is and what He has done for mankind. Thank you for a great article. Wisdom is also associated with fearing the Lord. Oh that more Christians, me included, would have the humility that you are endowed with by the Holy Spirit and for which I thank God for you sir. I have meant some Brothers in Christ who did not want to have anything to do with “speaking with new tongues”. Or does the Spirit fill your cup up only so much? Well said Roger. Yes, I too am in awe of God. Kris…it seems that your words always come as a fresh rain in a time of doubt. There is an elderly lady that I know I want her praying for me. That permissive course of action is indeed seen in scripture but if we really love the Lord and want to demonstrate faith do we ‘cut to the chase’ as it were and divorce? Do all speak in tongues? These are supernatural gifts and, according to scripture, are available to all Christians. If all were the eye, then how could the Body of Christ, the church, walk in faith? Miracles do still happen and so they are still a valid church gift of the Spirit but even those have changed…We have miracles happen all around us if we open our eyes and accept God, we can see them. About a couple of years ago I was sitting on the couch when all of a sudden I was talking something like the people have said on this post. The Distribution of the Gifts 1 Corinthians 8:6, Romans 11:36 and Hebrews 2:10 show God the Father to be the source of the gifts; Ephesians 4:8 identifies the Lord Yeshua as the giver of the gifts; and 1 Corinthians 12:4,11 and 18 name the Holy Spirit as the distributor of the varieties of gifts. I was on another Christian site,and I did not like it because each one was trying to prove he or she knew better than the other. In the garden He must have been at His weakest because this is where Satan tempered Him,and he cried up to His Farther for help,but then He said Thy Will Be Done on Earth,and He new He had to do it. I am going to this church which is closed all the time I pass,and it gets used for voting ballet for an election. I had to go to get my eye test,but I broke down on the phone,and the girl replied He can come out to you. There are thousands if not a million brothers who speak in an unknown language myself included who also have experienced miracles and or healing. In Isaiah 55:8-11 God tells us His thoughts and ways are not the same as His. To love GOD is to put HIM and HIS WORD first in every consideration. PURPOSES OF THE GIFTS OF THE HOLY SPIRIT: To build up the Body of Christ (1 Corinthians 14: 4,12). No believer can say that they have no gift of the Spirit from God. Hahaha…..Thank you for the exchange here Cat ….it is comforting to know someone is caring about others so much! I don`t think I would get back on that plane. What I sense you want is to grow and many churches have Sunday school programs (such as the church I am under-shepherd of) that allow the class to have input (which we do). He sees things that aren’t as if they already are! The girl with the spirit of divination (Acts 16:16-34). He is the one with all the answers. I do not believe as many people in the “charismatic movement” teach, that “speaking with tongues” is the evidence that you are baptized in the Spirit. Classic defensive position to turn what I say into I must have been “so angry”. The oldest told him she hates christians. I think that you are on the right track with the topic of speaking in tongues. Your understanding of the gifts and the understanding of apostles are incorrect and make the body weak. She was born in late 1889 and died in mid 2002 at age 112. Your replies are a great testimony to me of grace as you endeavor to set what the Word says before the reader for consideration. Work alongside people who are already flowing well in the Gifts. I call it honesty. The Great Commission is central to the mission of Christians but yet a person’s first and most important earthly ministry is to his or her family. These who decide they have reproductive ‘rights’ are deeply deceived and now the two children suffer as she is not attentive to them and often leaves them alone for long periods of time even though the youngest has epilepsy. I just don’t know. Is it really the holy spirit? What Do Christians Believe About Dinosaurs? HE IS THE SAME GOD. He did not care…HE was so sure of himself as having ‘good motives’ that no one could turn him from his choices. 4 There are different gifts, but the same Spirit. Yesterday I was looking at all of his many custom made Italian suits and wondering what he wears these days to work since he left our home last November. You wanting to share the gospel is wonderful because only 1 in 20 believers have ever led more than one person to faith in Christ. Well at around this time i had a friend named Richie,he lived across the street from me and he had heard what had happened. Yes, tongues spoken in the Spirit are real, but may never come to some believers, as they are not wanted or needed. var addy_textc9ecf750eb2c319c55ee74d193a62e5e = 'gfm' + '@' + 'gospel' + '.' + 'org' + '.' + 'nz';document.getElementById('cloakc9ecf750eb2c319c55ee74d193a62e5e').innerHTML += ''+addy_textc9ecf750eb2c319c55ee74d193a62e5e+'<\/a>'; Overview of the Nine Gifts of The Holy Spirit, In this "School of the Spirit" we desire to know more about the Gifts, what they do, how we can release them in an exciting practical way, and then to develop them through our becoming more excellent (, It is a firm reminder that the gifts are for the well-being of others. There are many more of these experienses in the life of my Bride and myself, but these two will do for now. 8 To some people the Spirit gives a message of wisdom. Months later while speaking with his wife, she told my wife that she could not resist the love of God she was getting from her husband and she just had to submit to it. Then He told me that is why I have no right to judge any other Christian because I don’t know what God is perfecting in their lives. 1 Corinthians 12 is Paul talking about all the spiritual gifts. When I was a Catholic in confession the priest always said at the end I forgive you of your sins,but he can`t only God can forgive sins not a man. Paul tells us that “There are different kinds of gifts, but the same Spirit distributes them” (v 4). 12:8; Luke 6:9) Let that decide and no test score alone. When you wrote about the meaning of being an apostle, which in most of the forms of its use means a person who follows an ideal, you said that there were none in this age of the church. 20 But now are they many members, yet but one body. That The Gift of Tongues, when coupled with The Gift of Interpretation of Tongues, is equal to The Gift of Prophecy. That is YOU all over bro!……and all who love His appearing ! Many times people discover, no, this is not for me but that’s fine. I apologize if you think what I said was accusing you of teaching anything contrary to the gifts of the Spirit. Over the years, I continued to ask questions from time to time of people who I considered filled with the Spirit of God. I now realize many of the things that I did not know I should have been rightly privy to . I don’t mean to be rude but I believe in the gift of healing. Repentance, confession, sanctification, and trusting in Christ are the essentials to what we learn from the Bible and so, although I do not disagree with what you are saying, the main thing is to keep the main thing, the main thing, and that is Christ died for sinners and to rescue them from hell fire. Even the Bible must be taught by Him so we can get past our natural mental understanding of it. My brother the spiritual realm is very very real and God gives gifts . Dreams are your brain giving picture to your inner thoughts while you sleep. 12 Christian brothers, I want you to know about the gifts of the Holy Spirit. When using Spiritual Gifts our motives and words must be checked against the standard of love. Thank you for sharing this. Men may teach and share much but it is the Lord and the Holy Spirit who are our best teachers and will provide us with insight that will surpass fleshly understanding and that is indeed worthy of our attention here. He got the message. My husband was so excellent at posing as a godly man but denying the Lord throughout our lives that his testimony is now fully flesh and he is hard in his heart. I would show interest and try to broach issues that I knew we should discuss in our marriage together but he was evasive and would not be transparent. It was not natural nor did it come easy for me. I was in ministry for some 15 years before we married and during our first couple of years. Parthians, Medes and Elamites; residents of Mesopotamia, Judea and Cappadocia, Pontus and Asia, Phrygia and Pamphylia, Egypt and the parts of Libya near Cyrene; visitors from Rome (both Jews and converts to Judaism); Cretans and Arabs—we hear them declaring the wonders of God in our own tongues” (dialektos or dialects)! Last night I had a pretty tough time breathing and coughed a lot but when I went to bed I have a hepa filter in my room and that seemed to give some relief along with the inhaler. There are several biblical tools and surveys that believers can use to discover their own gifts of the Spirit. I can send you news paper and magazine articles of this if you want. As He is clearly seen more and more holy from the study of His Word, the more and more I see just how much of a wretch I am and like Isaiah, before services, I need that “coal” touching my lips, being unclean, and to speak only what the Holy Spirit would have me speak. I felt the weight of the responsibility to raise our children and to serve the Lord in ways that would bring them up in the Word . My friendship with him dissolved soon thereafter. I thought afterwards I would have only been sitting in the house. I have read Romans chapter 5 countless times in my 30 years as a Christian, but I could not have the understanding of this verse outside of the teaching of the Holy Spirit. I did find some of the things he said but I still have not found what he said Augustine said but if he did say that in 400 ad it doesn,t answer the question why was the gifts seem to be so silent for hundreds of years until the late 1800 or early 1900 and then make an appearing again . In my search for Augustine’s approach to the baptism in the Holy Spirit with the evidence of speaking in other tongues it appears he was inclined to think this doctrine an error. Where God enables us to get up after we fall and get back on the path with Him. There are many Christian forums but you will find that frequently they are taking about issues that do not have to do with doctrine but about personal beliefs in grey areas that sometimes lead into wrangling which the Bible commands Christians not to do. In fact, the more I see God and His perfect holiness, the more I see my awful sinfulness. Pastor Jack . I have seen them reality of it. Roger, I don’t understand “I am a married man and six months before my wedding day, during a time of prayer, the Holy Spirit told me “whatever you want from your wife, you have to love it out of her, and no matter how she may act your only response is to be love.” If you can please show me where this is stated in the Bible?” and in particular, are you wanting to know where this is found in the Bible? This will put is the position that Paul saw himself as described in Romans chapter 7. Two children’s photos brought me to my knees as I had NO idea that this man who was so proud of his image of integrity could be the father.Yet he admitted that he had created this second ‘family ‘ but he and the OW had had NO intention of marriage. document.getElementById('cloakef7a5ce4cd3959f915e13e04ba5a45d1').innerHTML = ''; Or when we laid the hand on these infants [new believers], did each one of you look to see whether they would speak with tongues, and, when he saw that they did not speak with tongues, was any of you so wrong-minded as to say, ‘These have not received the Holy Ghost; for, had they received, they would speak with tongues as was the case in those times?’. This led to an online discussion and finally a phone call conversation on the subject of tongues. PO Box 57, Paraparaumu 5254, New Zealand. Financial provision for church buildings, projects, etc. The act glorified God and brought many to a believing faith in Jesus. Thank you! This love is another way of showing unbelievers and attracting them to Christ by it (John 13:35). In like manner we all so hear many brethren in the church who possess prophetic gifts and who through the spirit speak all kind of languages . A natural man or one who has rejected the council of the Word is going to be open to the whispers of the enemy of our soul to take offense at things that very well may not even be offensive. I do not believe these tongues were meant to be understood by the human mind. Thank you Roger. I believe that sometimes…perhaps many times…the education of seminary and the effect that this has on men creates a vanity or pride and Paul was so right when he said that knowledge puffs up. Make sense? The Holy Bible, New International Version. Paul wrote about tongues extensively in 1 Corinthians, chapters twelve through fourteen, but he was He is a pastor now, an author, a teacher, a mentor, a counselor and has a ministry in Africa. God Bless You. They are GIFTS of the Holy Spirit, not natural abilities that even non believers could possess. Ask around and maybe you will find an old programer who knows dos. So as long as this is not happening in church without proper interpretation, than that is between you and God. The word had much to offer but in my state of sorrow and grief and the incomprehensible reality of my husband’s long term life lived in deceit I did not feel equipped to know what was it that was ‘normal’ for a believer in such a situation. My ex-wife is an unbeliever, and I KNEW that they would grow up without the knowledge of our Jesus and our Father. 1Co 14:39 Therefore, brethren, desire earnestly to prophesy, and do not forbid to speak with tongues. The first Church that I go to it is a small church and when someone has the holy spirit it is one person speaking and we can understand. Some even go so far as to say, you are not saved if you’ve never spoken in the tongues. from the gifts of the Spirit that Paul talks about in the New Testament in I Corinthians chapter twelve. On gifts, one thing is clear, you can desire a gift! Over the years, I maintained a contact with this old Charismatic friend of mine. I think I was expecting far too much,but never mind I will be there again this week. Are there people that speak in tongues today? I agree with most of what you teach, but some things I don’t believe you have a true spiritual understanding of. Have they talked with their pastor, or do they even have one? Dennis Bennett). 4. It was day two and the pain had not gotten any better,everything i did was extremely unpleasant. I still wonder sometimes why I did not die only God knows that. Healing was a vital part of Jesus' ministry. He taught His disciples to follow His example and also heal the sick. Even though I had sought answers and felt that I had found them, I asked God once more to show me the truth. I like the list of gifts of the Holy Spirit that is given in Galatians 5:22: “The fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, generosity, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control.”. Then He gave me the verses from Mark 16 to share with her. I can sense that. But why? To be brief, there needs more info/wisdom reflected on your part about the gift of healing. Believing what HE testified that ‘ Those who come to GOD must BELIEVE that HE IS …AND that HE is a rewarder of those who DILIGENTLY SEEK HIM’. addyef7a5ce4cd3959f915e13e04ba5a45d1 = addyef7a5ce4cd3959f915e13e04ba5a45d1 + 'gospel' + '.' + 'org' + '.' + 'nz'; In short I made a full recovery and the medical staff were amazed at my recovery. I tried to follow the Lord before we married and learn all I could and asked the Lord to help me obey.I DO believe what you have pointed out about reading the Word with the Lord as guide and teacher to be very important as a state of our attitude and heart. Does the language always come from God? Mr 1:8 “I indeed baptized you with water, but He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit.” This verse speaks of what Jesus does. I went to her bedroom and reminded her of what she had asked me the previous week. These tests were written by humans and not inspired by God and so just use them for a guide only. I have an Agape love for him. In response to being able to see or hear things, I do agree this could be a form of an attack from the enemy in regards to your faith and your personal relationship with God. Does this mean we should not ask? As we may have learned not everything we ‘feel’ is ‘right ‘ actually may turn out to be supported by a WHOLE context of the scriptures . You taught me that ages ago about God keeping his promises when I was upset,and I remember you saying would rather believe your feelings than God`s word. Great question my friend…and exactly the right question too. I was warmly welcomed. I can’t interview because I have no voice…I am running out of time to prevent becomming homeless and need job asap. Some people have such a gift of remembering scriptures. but it always came out that way. Living life at the expense of one’s soul and other people’s lives is to live in iniquity. Dr. Michael Harper (U.K.) said: "We should expect the interpretation to be mainly an expression of prayer or worship and, therefore, different from a prophecy.". As a pastor myself, I would want to know this. NO one is saying the gifts are not here anymore, but you but the Greek word for tongues does not refer to an unknown language (the word “unknown” is not in the original manuscripts) but we can agree to disagree. Plus reflux meds in case that the case until I can see specialist. I read Pastor Jack’s response as well and will restate that not all people have all gifts. The Gift is to enable the person to know the motivation behind a situation or person" (Rev. This again was something I could only learn from the Holy Spirit because I have read many times in this chapter of the Bible. Wow. If he handles it in all humility, as he should, then you will have done him a favor as he needs to correct this woman but if not, it might be time to find another church. when Peter spoke to Jesus and then was rebuked (, Joshua commanding the sun to stand still (, "The Gospel Faith Messenger" Ministry. My brother had cancer and he turned to a Faith Healer for his daughter,but it did not work out. no not all have the gift of tongues . I Love You My Brother and may God richly bless you. At least I know God is still revealing the truth of the bible to me as He knows I’m ready for. He saw Christ and was ordained to be an apostle well after, Would it be strange to believe that something like this would occur throughout all generations until the return. At the time i thought this was a little crazy,but i was also curious because my friend had mentioned this to me and i found it odd that he believed this could help. This has been a long time in coming to my understanding over the years as I also listened to hear what others who said they loved GOD would share …some were correct , other’s just sounded good , and some solicited my yearning for something l already liked and thought was godly by teaching what I liked was ‘good’ when later I learned it was harmful! Please help me I do not want to question the Holy spirit I just want an answer and the truth. I was saved at the age of 4 and yearned to receive the gift of speaking in tongues since I was around 12. for consumption or attracting attention and adoration of self? "A church where Charismatic Gifts in all their wonder and variety are not in evidence is something less than the Church founded at Pentecost" (Donald Bloesch). 5 Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself. I would be a lost sheep with out you Jack. Jesus said: Those who are prone to cast disparaging remarks upon your efforts may eventually turn about and regret harsh words that lead nowhere but a ditch. The point I am trying to make say if God came down has a man with none of his power I wonder how He would fare. 20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies. I can subscribe to your video`s because I have a couple more about religion plus I go on YouTube to watch historic battles like when Salladin was trying to take Jerusalem. Of course, many can not have it either. By the way, the enemy loves our terror but God is the God of all comfort but even longtime Christians battle this fear and doubt and times of lack of faith so you are not alone my brother. It would not be edifying the church to have several speaking in tongues at the same time and with no one to interpret. Dennis Bennett, U.S.A.). That same night the Spirit sent me to call someone else who I spoke to in this unknown language and they understood me in english. It is referred to as jibberish, showmanship and even blastphemy of the Holy Spirit in some circles. I could see everything that was wrong,and I was talking like a Theologian. Today we have many people who can translate English and many who already speak or understand English around the world. Fortitude. There is hope for others and for you Erick, I thank my God for you sir. In one month, I lost my wife, home, my two children, and my mother to cancer, and had to face all of this at once. 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